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beatdaddio

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 05:06:06 AM »
When is warfare murder? When is meat-eating murder? When is the death penalty murder? When is a police shooting of a civilian murder? When are drone strikes murder? When is systemic cultural oppression, leading to deaths, murder? When is a violent revolution murder? When is dancehall toasting murder? Interesting article here:

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017, 05:12:59 AM »
beatdaddio:

You are a fucking idiot who insults the notions of common sense and reason upon which TST was founded, as you appear to be completely oblivious to the fact that even Lucien himself recognizes that there are scientifically definable limits by which an ethical and moral abortion should be performed, not to mention the fact that your thoughtless and tasteless "humor" completely undermines the legitimacy of TST by portraying it as a total farce, when in fact it's engaged in very serious philosophical and legal endeavors. To sum it up though, since when did ABORTION become something to joke about?

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017, 08:42:31 AM »
^^^ Trolls can't take their own medicine.
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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2017, 07:14:48 AM »
Trolls have it easier here. I would invite them to the 600 club where they can really get their asses kicked.

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 04:21:36 AM »
beatdaddio:

trolling? I don't follow. My post was serious. Why you didn't take it as such is beyond me. You're trolling no one. The only thing you have in common with trolls is the fact that you're a middle-aged, balding, likely overweight man who resembles a troll and sits at home with nothing to do but make terrible jokes on forums. You should try exercise for a change; in fact I have JUST the thing for you: Enjoy!


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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 09:45:03 AM »

trolling? I don't follow. My post was serious. Why you didn't take it as such is beyond me


Probably because you posted an article without contributing a single independent thought. Just a guess.
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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 03:19:39 PM »

trolling? I don't follow. My post was serious. Why you didn't take it as such is beyond me


Probably because you posted an article without contributing a single independent thought. Just a guess.
That, plus the thread title was phrased to bias the discussion toward the idea that abortion is murder, which is a cheap debate tactic; plus the fact that killing of people can be justified by someone/society at any time, shown by the examples I gave, so the question of "is it murder" is a moving target; plus the fact that TST is plainly pro choice; plus these posts:
Hail Comrade? That sounds communist. BAD!
I, for one, cannot WAIT until Trump gets this economy going for us again by bringing jobs back HERE where they belong, builds that MUCH-needed wall that should have been built decades ago, and invigorates in American women the importance of traditional, nuclear families (I never take it for granted that I was raised in one). Hail Satan, Hail Milo, Hail Trump!
To then follow up to my response by calling me a fucking idiot yadda yadda made it plain that Maha Kali has the mental development of a 14 year old, incapable of mature discussion of a complex subject like abortion, and suggested he was only here to start fights in the first place.
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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 03:31:34 PM »

trolling? I don't follow. My post was serious. Why you didn't take it as such is beyond me


Probably because you posted an article without contributing a single independent thought. Just a guess.
That, plus the thread title was phrased to bias the discussion toward the idea that abortion is murder, which is a cheap debate tactic; plus the fact that killing of people can be justified by someone/society at any time, shown by the examples I gave, so the question of "is it murder" is a moving target; plus the fact that TST is plainly pro choice; plus these posts:
Hail Comrade? That sounds communist. BAD!
I, for one, cannot WAIT until Trump gets this economy going for us again by bringing jobs back HERE where they belong, builds that MUCH-needed wall that should have been built decades ago, and invigorates in American women the importance of traditional, nuclear families (I never take it for granted that I was raised in one). Hail Satan, Hail Milo, Hail Trump!
To then follow up to my response by calling me a fucking idiot yadda yadda made it plain that Maha Kali has the mental development of a 14 year old, incapable of mature discussion of a complex subject like abortion, and suggested he was only here to start fights in the first place.

Youve handled trolls like him as efficiently and ruthlessly as any Laveyan Ive encountered at other websites, and I enjoy watching you rip them apart. However, this forum is far too tolerant of people like this. On the other website I mentioned, there would be ten just as adept as you, plus they would put a "troll" label on him and eventually ban him. That kind of harsh treatment elevates the intellectual discussion and enforces more discipline. There is some prejudice against so-called "sjws", but that doesnt mean that a site more socially engaged should be more tolerant of intellectual laziness and stupidity to prove how much more "tolerant" they are.

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2017, 02:01:18 AM »
1) beatdaddio: "Cheap debate tactic?" Really? The question I asked was phrased in a very neutral way. The fact that you read it, and immediately polarized it in a vain attempt to make me come across like some kind of radical, right-wing fundamentalist clearly demonstrates who has a STRONG bias here. My post had nothing to do with the pro-life/pro-choice argument, yet the added fact that you arbitrarily infused it into my post continues to show anyone with half a brain how flawed your debate tactics really are (I've seen these kinds of fallacies many times; mostly from idiotic, brain-washed socialist college students...pretty sad to find the same thing from someone TWICE their age). I also fail to grasp just what in the hell my thoughts on immigration and the economy have to do with my thoughts on the abortion issue.  Yet another typical (and pathetic) tactic of character assassination based on the moronic assumption that people are one-dimensional, one-sided, "right or left" beings who blindly follow every single talking point on "the agenda" if they (god forbid!)  happen to be conservative about ONE or two things. To demonstrate how some of us thing CRITICALLY about these issues instead of blindly following  party platform dogma like you, maybe I should elaborate: I am pro-choice within REASONABLE limits. I do not believe that abortion is an IDEAL situation but should be used as a last resort after other options have failed. Does that mean I think it should be illegal? Of course not. Discouraged? Depends on the situation! (yeah, life is not black and white...go figure...you'd think someone your age would KNOW that by now). So yes, you can be pro-family (and yes, I'm taking about a FEMALE mother and MALE father...take a survey of people who were raised in traditional families and then tell me how many of them would have preferred same-sex parents...that will PROVE that same-sex adoption is not IDEAL (though I am not saying it should be ILLEGAL)) and pro-choice at the same time.

2) samowens84: I'm struggling to figure out how I've been "efficiently and ruthlessly ripped apart." I pointed out so many holes in beatdaddio's "argument" against me that it's starting to look like Swiss cheese. I've been here since the beginning; I'm still here; I'm not going ANYWHERE. If you have been reading this forum for any significant length of time then you have read (although you probably didn't realize it) MANY of my very thought-provoking and engaging posts. And, if you were actually as smart as you're desperately attempting to portray, you'd have figured out by now that this is a new handle and that my few posts under it in no way reflect my contributions to this forum. And I'm truly sorry for your apparent "snowflake status"...perhaps  you should start a PROTEST! that's what they do now, right? (just please don't break windows like they did at Berkley though...I know how bad you want to! ;) )

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2017, 02:47:27 AM »
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care about you. (However, you admit that this is a fake handle so as to provide disingenuous posts to start flame wars, so.... How was Beatdaddie wrong about you exactly?) In any case,, I was talking to the adult in the room, not you.

I will say this, people like you are a dime a dozen. I know youre not as stupid as you present yourself to be. Im sure you could sound reasonable if pushed hard enough, like you did when insulted. I know people like you thrive on attention. Ive seen several people on the internet just like you, and I consider you a drone. And you have my word that no matter how insulting or provocative you try to be with your next post I will ignore you. (BTW why is it you idiots always seem to repackage the same insults? You guys have a handbook or something?) Cause like I told your duplicate elswhere, I really dont give a fuck what you think

P.S. Stay here, annoy people. Forums like this one were meant for people like you. ;)
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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2017, 08:54:19 AM »
Sam, the funniest thing to me is that even though you are right that this forum has almost no moderation and allows this type of trolling to go on far too much, what's become apparent is that we have only ONE troll!  :)  All of the trolling done here is just one person using multiple accounts.
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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2017, 03:02:53 PM »
Oh boy, I come back from Lionfish hunting to save the FA reefs and what do I find? My favorite little guy here.

There's nothing better to do on the board since we're active for TST issues outside the forum or are only in contact with the FB parts of TST groups. He's just so fun to poke at. Shall we play with him all over again? I'm always game between saving coral reefs and trying to get sentient marine life outta zoos.
I think he's just bored like us. Pulling a Kelleyanne Conway and just bullshitting for attention and money. I frequently consider doing the same myself. Why not take advantage of people's stupidity and just spout BS and let them THROW their money at you? Seriously, it's ingenious. I've wanted to play a lie for years and then when I'm rich just let it spill how they've been duped but I already got their money so HAHA! XD It would be glorious. Except this guy's like Bob Larson, he was doing it for money but wasn't mentally stable so he ended up believing his own lies. Which is hilarious to watch.

If you guys are tired of this squeaky toy I'll play with it. >:3

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2017, 03:30:15 PM »
Youre welcome to it, but it seems he took his toys and went home ;D

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Re: Is (or when is) self-abortion murder? Interesting article here:
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2017, 03:37:14 PM »
Dammit no! Come back here, let me play with you! XD