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nieku

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Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« on: August 07, 2016, 05:23:54 PM »
If it's viable, I'd like to look into doing so. I'm currently studying translation, so I could translate the TST page to Spanish in order to make satanism reach a wider public (Not so many Spanish people can understand English)

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 04:24:33 AM »
That's a really cool possibility! What's the political situation like in Spain? Is church/state separation a big issue there?

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2016, 06:26:20 AM »
Nice question, in theory Spain is a secular state, but in practice it is Catholic. The Catholic Church has a lot of privileges in Spain. They don't pay any taxes when they should be paying 2500000€ annually and receive public funding from the government, between 7000000 and 10000000 euros each year.

As if that weren't enough, now they want to reform education to remove philosophy and sciences for the contemporary world (which covers a wide range of topics such as geography, renewable energy sources, uses of technology and some basic human biology) from the students' syllabus and also add religion as a compulsory subject.

You can check this article translated by Google for more information: https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codigonuevo.com%2Fbeneficios-fiscales-iglesia-catolica%2F&edit-text=&act=url

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 04:49:21 AM »
hELLO nEIKo and all other TST


at last another Spair interested on a TST chapel in spain!
im very glad to see another tst  in spain

to all the TSt that don't knew the situation ins spain

our constitution say we are a aconfesional state (but Catholic religion had a lot of influence yet, and the religion class is mandatory in elementary education).
the last years we see a Grotesque show and regression about freedom of religion and atheism.
for example a Interior ministry putting a medal of honor of police to a virgin statue, http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4617544.ece

a trial again a girl that protest against the existence of a Catholic chapel in a public university, in a pussy riot style . and condemned for offense to religious feelings https://www.rt.com/news/333011-spain-protest-maestre-church/


Interior Minister of Spain (the man who controls the Police) believes in guardian angels, has one called Marcelo which helps him parking the car
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/3wcm2a/interior_minister_of_spain_the_man_who_controls/

antiabortion groups start to appear in spain (like in the USa)

http://www.lamarea.com/2016/09/28/grupos-cristianos-asedian-las-clinicas-ginecologicas-barcelona/

(https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lamarea.com%2F2016%2F09%2F28%2Fgrupos-cristianos-asedian-las-clinicas-ginecologicas-barcelona%2F&edit-text=)


christian lawyers denounces the Mayor of Barcelona for the  reading a poetic performance  'Mare nostra', an adaptation of the Our Father who claims the woman's body: "Our mother who is in heat, let your pussy be sanctified."
https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eldiario.es%2Fcatalunya%2Fbarcelona%2FAbogados-Cristianos-Colau-Ayuntamiento-Barcelona_0_485402448.html&edit-text=

and more and more

and yes we are a "european country" (not a middle east dictatorshit) but in some aspect we look like Iran.
the Opus day cult(ultra catholic right wing ) are very powerfull and some ministers in ur goverment are from this cult.

the catholic church had a lot of power and dont  collaborate with the justice with a pedofiles criminal case that arein the court in spain, they just cover the pedofiles

http://podcast.cataloniatoday.cat/article/106-news-today/940286-third-person-accused-of-child-sex-abuse-at-barcelona-school.html


like you can see is more than necesari in spain a Satanic bye and like Lucien say today.

The World needs Satan now more than ever.

In Barcelona my and a close  grup of friend talk about contacting the TST and mount some satanic group and FB page or something related to TST

In the FB forum they tell me to post it to this trheat and ask for some info and suport

like a member of the temple (i have my diploma!) if the TST is interested on focus to spanish speakers or star a chapel you have all my colaboration and suport






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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 05:07:12 AM »
There is now an unofficial group for Spain on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1155732324518729/

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 12:37:16 AM »
Hello, satanists. I've created a non-official TST webpage for Spanish satanists: https://www.facebook.com/TSTFriendSpain/
Hope it will become an official one!  ;D I will be translating more Satanic stuff into Spanish soon! Does anyone know which is the typography used in the tenets poster?

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 04:36:39 AM »
Hi nieku,

I'm from Spain and founder member of Sangre Ritual (since 2015), We are currently gathering signatures to allow the construction of the Luciferian church in Spain.
https://www.change.org/p/gobierno-de-espa%C3%B1a-apoyo-a-la-construcci%C3%B3n-de-la-iglesia-luciferiana-en-espa%C3%B1a

 Sangre Ritual is a group of people who transmits their ideology about the hidden power of the 4 devils, in their own way and through music. Maybe you are interested in adding us to your Facebook group and we will do the same. You are welcome to the project.

Thanks so much.

Lex.

https://es-es.facebook.com/sangreritual

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Hola Nieku.

Soy de españa y miembro fundador de la hermandad Sangre Ritual (desde el año 2015). Actualmente estamos juntando firmas para permitir la construcción de la iglesia luciferiana en España.

https://www.change.org/p/gobierno-de-espa%C3%B1a-apoyo-a-la-construcci%C3%B3n-de-la-iglesia-luciferiana-en-espa%C3%B1a

Sangre Ritual es un grupo de personas que transmite su ideología sobre el poder oculto de los 4 diablos, a su manera y mediante la música. Quizás te interese añadirnos a tu grupo de Facebook y nosotros haremos lo mismo. Eres bienvenido al proyecto.

Un saludo.

https://es-es.facebook.com/sangreritual

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Re: Is it possible to start a chapter in Spain?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2017, 09:23:44 AM »
Years ago I used to get shit for it sporadically. Wasn't so much my Baphomet as being a known Satanist.
Nowadays I can field these interactions in a much better way than then.

One instance is when I took my cat to the vet, the veterinarian kept asking about my Baphomet.
I just tried to ignore him at first because I wasn't there to talk about religion or my ornamentation.
I eventually gave him my short answer which I found to be very helpful.

If they ask what it means, I say- "It represents man as just another animal"

The vet didn't like that answer and was trying to fish for another answer, he was rather rude and almost inferred that I had made my cat sick. I found another vet.

Other ways if people ask you, you can say- It's a star, can't you see that?
Hahahaha Ridicule in a polite form.

People just stare now usually, you can feel it how uncomfortable they become and how bad they want to say something , but they don't.