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General Category => Fun => Topic started by: TheBlackSheep on August 01, 2016, 12:55:03 AM

Title: TST app
Post by: TheBlackSheep on August 01, 2016, 12:55:03 AM
LucasPhoenix pitched the idea of an app for us, and I think it's a GREATNESS idea. Many of us don't like to publicly announced or share our religious views with our friends and family on Facebook and many of us don't even have one.

I however, don't know dick about making an app or coding. Are there any tech savvy Satanists here who could create a fun and engaging app for TST?
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: bushybr0ws on August 01, 2016, 10:22:20 PM
I am wondering what we want to accomplish with this app. Is it a mobile-friendly version of these forums? Some kind of social media network of Satanists? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, but we should identify what we want to accomplish with the app before we commit any resources to it. What's the vision?
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: Alchemist16AD on August 01, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
For people like me that has a computer. I think it would be nice to know, when I have messages or got replies on forums, on my phone, so I don't have to log on my computer to check.  Maybe like face book  messenger. Just a few things I would look for. And would want it to run on android.
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: TheBlackSheep on August 02, 2016, 12:56:21 PM
Personally I think it should be all of those things, and of it of course should also run on Android. Notifications, forums and chats, a way to connect, all that kind of stuff. Main problem I think is finding someone to create it
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: RealSpiders on December 09, 2016, 11:00:27 PM
Thats a good idea. Maybe the app could have the tenets and a newsletter page too
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: buckeyesatanist on February 01, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
I hope that an app for TST might consist some of the following:

Title: Re: TST app
Post by: Daemon on May 15, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
If you guys make a list of functions you would like, I could create it myself. I actually already make apps and what not for phones with a company I own. However, I couldn't do this through my company, it would have to he a side project on my off time. But id be more than happy to do so if you compile a list of functions. I could take a few of my base platforms and encode it into something. I had a few chat apps I was developing that I scrapped when whatsapp and kik came along.
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: beatdaddio on May 15, 2017, 03:52:52 PM
IMO what TST needs is a social media app that works the same as the usual ones but where the database is kept private, not sold or shared anywhere.  In this way the inner group can distribute their campaign materials and funding requests, and the larger body of users can use it as a chat room, a place to sell their occult goods, and a place to ask questions.  Basically what this or any forum would normally be used for, except kids like apps now, not forums.

There's already an excellent privacy-focused Facebook-style app called MeWe which we could use, and in fact I already put up a dummy TST page there just to test it out.  Problem is, hardly anybody uses MeWe, and it is a tall order to get people to sign up for one more social app when "everybody" is already using Facebook and Snapchat etc.  Considering our focus is political action, I really think TST should be pursuing a system like this where user privacy is protected, instead of Facebook.  I imagine that if the central team (Lucian, Jex, et al) encouraged everyone to sign up, or put a link there instead of linking to this dead-ass forum, then over time we might get enough members to where it would be fun and useful.  I'd like that, but I also think it's unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: Daemon on May 15, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
Well it would be a slow process all around, even when I launch the beta, garnering users would be pretty rough without some sort of shout outs. I imagine Facebook would be the best bet. I dont know if Lucien or anyone of the sort would put a word out about it, but who knows?

Reading over everyone's ideas for it, it seems like the main desired features would be a chat platform, a newsletter, a shop for selling merchandise, and an activity board, as well as user privacy. While its not undoable, it will be a little challenging. Especially if it were to take off. The biggest issue I see is a way to incorporate all of this into one platform. Well that and paying for server time and regular maintenance; I.e patches, updates, and bugs. Seeing as we are an activist group, privacy is a big issue, but this also opens of the issue of people joining purely to spy. This is easily fixable by having a "proven" member vouch for newcomers, or by checking with TST main sites for authorized members. That would take some cooperation, but I dont see any issues like that cropping up for a while.

As for users wanting to sell goods, I won't be able to incorporate a store into the app itself, but what I could do is make an advertisement corner for sellers to promote their wares and have reviews and ratings by seller. Whether they are a scam or trusted would be displayed, but the actual selling would need to be from a different platform. The chat function would be similar to Facebook messenger or possibly the one you mentioned (never heard of it, I'll have to check it out) but a global chat forum just wouldn't work. It would bog the app and its functionality. It would have to be broken down via interests or topics. All in all, it can be done. I can't make any promises on the speed of which it will come about, but I will do a beta without the store function and see how well it takes off. I'll cover the initial server fees and startup, but if it takes off, on going funding will need to be via donations, and possibly (I dont know how this may be received or how it will be feasible) a small advertising fee through the store side of the app.

I want the app to be purely a TST app, in name and spirit, if its okay with Lucien. However, I wish it to remain in the spirit of this forum by not excluding other Satanist.
Title: Re: TST app
Post by: Schoggi on May 19, 2017, 05:48:11 AM
First of, please excuse my horrible english.

Now with that out of the way lets continue.

I think we need to talk about some aspects of the desired application.

Need
Is there really a need for a new app? Arent there already pre existing solutions out there? Sure the privacy point still stands but what if you dont give your real info to those platforms. I for one am not called Schoggi in reallife :-P

Money
Where will the funds for the project come from? And we need to factor in initial costs AND the cost it takes to run the whole thing. Is it worth diverting those resources from other projects? Private and TST projects?

just my two cents